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Thomas (and Obama) has won!

04 Jun

Not that Thomas is crowing: see 570 days ago. 😉

I have followed what Thomas has said with considerable interest, and no little wonder that someone so far removed from it all — on the surface at least — would know so much about it. But that’s our 21st century world, I guess.

Meanwhile on BlogExplosion I have seen many for and against. I am particularly chuffed by some of the conservative (if that is an appropriate word for the radical nature of some of them) US sites that are starting to publish long doleful lists of all the hidjus changes this secret Muslim commie Antichrist threatens to make.

Trouble is, as I read them, I can’t help thinking: will he really do that? What a good idea! There may be hope after all! But I am sure I am reading those lists in a manner the bloggers would find quite perverse, which is why I have not linked to any of those lists. I am sure you will find them if you look…

The other trouble is, if elected he probably won’t change as many things as I may hope or those bloggers may fear. A shame…



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12 responses to “Thomas (and Obama) has won!

  1. marcellous

    June 4, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Well he hasn’t really won yet, you know.

     
  2. Thomas

    June 4, 2008 at 11:16 pm

    He won the Democratic primary. It’s a little race, easily overlooked. I’d be happy to provide a little bit of information on it if you require?

    And, let’s be serious, does anyone with a brain think McCain will win in November?

     
  3. Kevin

    June 5, 2008 at 6:53 am

    One person with a brain does, such as that brain is. In fact, I think McCain will rip Obama a new one in the general election. Much like a Reagan or Nixon victory.

    Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want McCain to win. I just think he probably will. McCain is no conservative (except for taxes and maybe choosing judges), and I’ll be happy if he loses. He will taint the definition of conservatism for decades if he gets in. While I probably can’t bring myself to vote for a Democrat, I’m fairly confident that I’m not going to vote at all in November.

    But it won’t be enough. Obama makes one gaff after another. He’s going to screw himself, sooner or later. Whether it’s hanging out with American terrorists, visiting a racist church, hanging out with Chicago crime lords… I dunno which one will get him. But one of them is going to end his candidacy.

    Thanks Thomas, for suggesting that I didn’t have a brain if I disagreed with you. I was starting to think that liberals were not judgmental after all! Glad I was wrong. It would have ruined my thesis :).

     
  4. ninglun

    June 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    I’ll leave that to Thomas, I think.

    I’m fairly confident that I’m not going to vote at all in November. Lucky you! Here you would be fined. (I approve of compulsory voting, by the way; I hope we are never foolish enough to do away with it.)

     
  5. Kevin

    June 5, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    You DO approve of it? I would not have guessed that. I assumed that you would only want informed people to cast votes. Or does your law somehow force people to become informed? Oh well, I was unclear in my last post, anyway. I will be voting, just not for President. Our state has a Democrat Senator that needs to be unemployed. Also, McCain will win my state with our without my vote, so my protest really doesn’t amount to much.

     
  6. ninglun

    June 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    I assumed that you would only want informed people to cast votes. Or does your law somehow force people to become informed?

    Of course it is good for people to be informed, but not up to anyone else to start making judgements about that when it comes to their right — here in Oz their obligation — to vote.

     
  7. AV

    June 5, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Voting is not compulsory in Australia. Turning up at the voting booth on election day is.

     
  8. Kevin

    June 5, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    But… huh? You ARE making that judgment, aren’t you? When your masters issue a decree that ‘you must vote’, you dutifully comply. That, my friend, is a judgment. Old-style hippies… er… ‘liberals’ would not be ok with complying with ridiculous demands from the government, such as ‘you must vote – I command you!’. Why are you? Heck, I’m an evil conservative and even I don’t accept that the government can force me to vote.

    “Of course it is good for people to be informed, but not up to anyone else to start making judgements [sic] about that when it comes to their right”

    Bah! You misunderstood my complaint. My fault, probably. I’m fine with people who THINK they’re informed and vote accordingly. I’m just against people voting who don’t bother at all to learn the candidate’s positions. Sadly, that makes up about 40% of the populace.

    To quote Brent Butt’s dad, “Hippies!”

     
  9. ninglun

    June 5, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    AV is right, of course; you just have to show up and go through the motions, or send in a postal vote.

     
  10. Kevin

    June 6, 2008 at 8:51 am

    “Voting is not compulsory in Australia. Turning up at the voting booth on election day is.”

    And that’s a good idea because…? (fill in the dot dot dot. Yes, it’s called a ‘dot dot dot’ An ellipse is something totally different, so calling it an ellipsis is just misleading. Quit misleading people! That’s what landed Rudd in your laps! Dot dot dot.)

     
  11. Thomas

    June 9, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    I think you read too much into my comment/hyperbole Kevin. You seem (in my opinion, which is limited to this exchange) to be be rather antagonistic to something quite simple. I was only expression my belief that Obama will resoundingly win the election. I find myself inspired by him, and as such, wanted to express it so.

    I just keep reading your comment and am continually surprised by it. Take a few deep breaths and relax.

     
  12. ninglun

    June 9, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    This from Kevin’s site may help explain his reaction.

     
 
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